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barrieeld
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Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:13 pm

hi all!

i am looking at a high mileage 07 (LCI) B5 (150k+) what should i be looking for ...car seems in good condition been looked after by sytner till 100k then protech cars after that. Invoices are there but nothing showing any major work just oil changes etc...

I also don't know how to value it so any pointers here would be great!

thanks again !

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Tue Apr 16, 2019 2:26 pm

This one? B5 [E60] #365 Black Sapphire/Black Dakota Leather; 2008_57; £12.0k; 184k; Trade

I'm sure the experts will be along shortly, but as far as I know the obvious answer is the Supercharger which is the special and Alpina-specific part of the B5 and big money (£2.5k+) to replace.

Price-wise, that is an attractive price I would say and I don't think I've seen a cheaper running & driving example.
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Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:23 pm

Deffo the supercharger, I think Sytner quoted someone about 5K fitted. But the springs, discs, even tyres which arent cheap. Check all the electrics work and the age of the battery. I would say unless the car is really cheap think long and hard.
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Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:43 pm

Hi again, yes thats the one!

I haven't seen any evidence of a supercharger replacement so may be a ticking time bomb?
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Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:54 pm

barrieeld wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:43 pm
Hi again, yes thats the one!

I haven't seen any evidence of a supercharger replacement so may be a ticking time bomb?
I would assume it’s had at least one, probably more at that mileage. From what I remember reading 50k miles is a good innings for one but some have lasted much less with the wrong maintenance.
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Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:00 pm

This won’t be on it’s original charger so check when the last one was fitted, I would say they are good for 60k miles at least usually if the correct oil filter is always used (this is crucial).
Check how many miles the discs have done and for any oil leaks from the rocker covers, timing chain cover or alternator bracket.
Just because it has high miles shouldn’t write it off if it has been well maintained with correct parts fitted when required. Service history will be essential to discover this.
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Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:55 pm

As above although I have had one charger last 100k with only front bearings to replace for £28, I know I keep saying it but oil filter is king because even BMW put the wrong ones in and the wrong ones do fit and do work up to a point eg put the oil light out but starve the charger of oil especially to the inner bearings.
The only problem with the car you are looking at I can see is it is showing a 07 number plate yet date registered is 23rd Jan 2008 so that would make it a 57 plate its a small point I know but still a point!
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Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:26 am

I have simple solution to wrong filter, I buy the correct filter 11 42 7 511 161 and hand it to the dealer.
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Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:29 pm

I have already spoke to the mechanic/ Bmw specialists, who had serviced it after the Bmw main dealer
He told me he's always used a Bmw 550 oil filter, has repaired the supercharger at some stage,
The owner was a friends dad, couldn't give me any details on part numbers used to carry out any work, he is an ex Bmw mechanic, and did say the gearbox is tired and could do with a rebuild /service
And yes, it's a cheap B5
But could be an expensive one to maintain
They've had it for a while for sale, try them at 9-10k
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Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:21 pm

Gee.Singh wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:29 pm
I have already spoke to the mechanic/ Bmw specialists- Protech cars, who had serviced it after the Bmw main dealer
He told me he's always used a Bmw 550 oil filter, has repaired the supercharger at some stage,
The owner was a friends dad, couldn't give me any details on part numbers used to carry out any work, he is an ex Bmw mechanic, and did say the gearbox is tired and could do with a rebuild /service
And yes, it's a cheap B5
But could be an expensive one to maintain
They've had it for a while for sale, try them at 9-10k
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Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:56 pm

I hope you mean the 545 oil filter Gee as the one for the 550 is the wrong one!
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I think it's been fitted with the wrong filter
I'm sure the mechanic said to be a Bmw 550 filter
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Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:07 pm

Like Norman, I provide the correct oil filter on oil services to Sytner,
Originally Sytner also tried to fit a standard 750 filter , not a 745 or the correct one
Alpina sent a bulletin to the Bmw dealers showing and stating the correct filter
None of the service advisors are even aware of this fact
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Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:20 pm

Gee.Singh wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:07 pm
Like Norman, I provide the correct oil filter on oil services to Sytner,
Originally Sytner also tried to fit a standard 750 filter , not a 745 or the correct one
Alpina sent a bulletin to the Bmw dealers showing and stating the correct filter
None of the service advisors are even aware of this fact
Totally agree, sadly the last time I went to Sytner Nottingham which is probably 2 years ago now. The Service advisor had just joined, I think he said he worked for Nissan before. When I told him parts and filter was ALPINA as opposed to the base model, he went off to check ( fair enough) and came back and said " Yes Eamon in the parts just told me". Pretty worrying as its the main ALPINA place? Perhaps I was unlucky, but just get the filters in pack of 10 and hand them over.
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E 39 523i for winter and track day - leave it anywhere
E92 325i - written off by X5 I was not driving!
E92 335D Twin Turbo - sold to Sytner Alpina
E 60 - 525D new - sold to Cooper BMW
E 60 - 530D new - sold at auction
E 39 - 520i new - sold at auction
E 30 - 316i new Touring - sold at auction
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