BMW launch the ALPINA B7 at the Canadian Internation

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BMW launch the ALPINA B7 at the Canadian Internation

Post by neil » Mon Feb 20, 2006 12:58 am

Further to my post a couple of days ago

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Post by alpina46 » Mon Feb 20, 2006 7:44 pm

Is it true that these cars will not receive build numbers ?
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Post by neil » Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:30 pm

The show car certainly didn't have them. So there is some speculation.

But I can't see the reasoning unless BMW have bought the rights and are building them themselves - seriously doubt that though.

If they don't carry plaques it will devalue the marque - I can't see it.

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Post by KevinB10 » Mon Feb 20, 2006 9:51 pm

let's hope they do decide to use build numbers, it does add something to teh ALPINA marque.
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Post by D4 » Mon Feb 20, 2006 10:40 pm

was speaking to Ged at Sytners earlier and whilst he's not fully genned up on it, he did confirm that the cars will be marketed in the US and Canada as BMW's as much or more so than ALPINA's
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Post by D4 » Mon Feb 20, 2006 10:42 pm

also it doesn't say ALPINA on the bootlid...
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Post by Charles » Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:33 am

Could it be that the car on display is a pre-production "mock-up" given that North America (and the US in particular) have very strict/different safety interpretations for things like bumpers and lights and stuff.

If that is the case then it is probably why there is no production/chassis number on the plaque.

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Post by D4 » Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:51 pm

No Charles.. definately confirmed by Alpina that the car will be marketed as a BMW and that the importers in North America specified that they didn't want the numbering...
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Post by neil » Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:58 pm

keep it simple for the yanks eh !

Not quite sure of the decision my self - if it was built entirely by BMW - licenced by ALPINA - with mass produced engines etc - then I could understand lack of numbers. But if they are real ALPINAs then its an odd decision - how can you have an exclusive numbered car in one geography and a non-number identical car elsewhere ?

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Post by D4 » Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:34 pm

i did ask if this was a sign of the forthcoming Alpina policy (ie: having non numbered cars ) but i was told absolutely not...
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Post by Charles » Wed Feb 22, 2006 2:37 am

Then it doesn't make sense :?
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Post by Chas » Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:26 am

Charles wrote:Then it doesn't make sense :?
Neither do our american cousins! Perhaps Alpina sounds too close to Al-Qaeda for comfort? :shock:

Or perhaps they have type approval rules which would deem the B7 to be a completely separate car from the E65 and require a large pile of $ to be thrown at their bureaucracy.?

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Post by neil » Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:52 am

Chas wrote:Or perhaps they have type approval rules which would deem the B7 to be a completely separate car from the E65 and require a large pile of $ to be thrown at their bureaucracy.?
I feel this may be getting closer to the truth :roll:

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Post by D4 » Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:27 am

yes i think by coming in under BMW's umbrella the type approval importing legislation etc.. will be eased...
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Post by alpina46 » Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:50 pm

Is it just me or is anyone else slightly dis-heartened by this ?

If i had bought a B7 thinking it was one of a few i'd be seriously pee'd off by this. As the number on my car would be only half the story.

I think we should be asking ourselves wether we are going to except these cars as Alpina's.
Its a hard call as they have the engine and all the right bits (well most of them).

Whats Neil going to do when some poor Canadian/yank wants to add his car to the register :?:
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