This is getting ridiculous!

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This is getting ridiculous!

Post by Charles » Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:27 pm

Made the temporary decision to switch to Tesco Momentum recently to save a few pennies and had to pay 201.9 per litre this evening :shock:

I dread to think what VPower is at the moment ...
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Post by ScooBeeFive » Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:58 pm

I paid 205.9 a couple of nights ago for V Power - cost £133 to fill the B5. Horrible. :roll:
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Post by MattOz » Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:29 pm

209.9 for V-Power diesel. I’m using Costco premium diesel instead as it saves me 25p a litre.
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Post by rodbargee » Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:09 pm

petrol and derv now making the road tax look cheap

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Post by ScooBeeFive » Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:21 pm

I need to fill the mower fuel can up as well - that's going to be painful, as they recommend putting E5 Super in lawn mowers :doh
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Re: This is getting ridiculous!

Post by dirk » Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:21 pm

Oh guys, what would you say if you have an good old Alpina with 110 or 95 Liter Tank…..

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Post by PerryGunn » Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:26 pm

dirk wrote:
Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:21 pm
Oh guys, what would you say if you have an good old Alpina with 110 or 95 Liter Tank…..
...you'll need either an overdraft or a lottery win :lol:
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Post by ScooBeeFive » Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:28 pm

dirk wrote:
Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:21 pm
Oh guys, what would you say if you have an good old Alpina with 110 or 95 Liter Tank…..
I'd like it personally - the only thing the B5 suffers from is poor range. Appreciate it would be a bigger hit when you filled it up, but at least it would last longer.
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Post by PerryGunn » Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:05 pm

ScooBeeFive wrote:
Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:21 pm
I need to fill the mower fuel can up as well - that's going to be painful, as they recommend putting E5 Super in lawn mowers :doh
Unless you're using large amounts in your garden tools the cost difference should be small - if you do use lots, and the mower isn't ancient, E10 should be fine if you add some fuel stabiliser, this will also prevent the fuel degrading if stored over the winter
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Post by Grumpyjohn1957 » Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:04 pm

ScooBeeFive wrote:
Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:28 pm
the only thing the B5 suffers from is poor range
LOL, must be the way you drive Paul! I got 34mpg on M.way Saturday, average speed 72mph over 93 miles.
Admittedly, it gets pretty grim in town traffic.
Couldn't bring myself to drive anything less though, what do you do?
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Post by Charles » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:14 pm

ScooBeeFive wrote:
Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:21 pm
I need to fill the mower fuel can up as well - that's going to be painful, as they recommend putting E5 Super in lawn mowers :doh
I've had the same recommendation - something to do with the E10 fuel destroying the carburettor diaphragm. It does mean that I can mow the lawn quicker :D :D
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Post by Gorgerak » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:23 pm

I've also had to switch from VPower to Momentum - just cannot justify the price :shock: - thankfully I work from home and a tank can last me for 3 weeks! (do have to be careful though)

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Post by ScooBeeFive » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:44 pm

Grumpyjohn1957 wrote:
Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:04 pm
ScooBeeFive wrote:
Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:28 pm
the only thing the B5 suffers from is poor range
LOL, must be the way you drive Paul! I got 34mpg on M.way Saturday, average speed 72mph over 93 miles.
Admittedly, it gets pretty grim in town traffic.
Couldn't bring myself to drive anything less though, what do you do?
The best I've ever seen was just over 30mpg on a run down to Folkestone last month. A lot was 50mph in the long sections of roadworks. On a normal motorway journey I'll probably see high 20s. Around town or having fun is usually in the teens. I think the G30/31 must be a bit better on fuel, unless I have a very uneconomical right foot!
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Post by ScooBeeFive » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:46 pm

Usual motorway economy….
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Re: This is getting ridiculous!

Post by Grumpyjohn1957 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:31 pm

ScooBeeFive wrote:
Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:44 pm
I think the G30/31 must be a bit better on fuel, unless I have a very uneconomical right foot!
It’s interesting the difference between cars.
Similar weight, aerodynamically close, more or less same engine, gearbox & tyres.
I use a 0-40 oil not the recommended thin 0-30 (I might go to 5-50 next) and oil choice does seem to affect economy by up to 5%.
My tyres run at 3.2bar cold on PZero’s. Economy, if the pressures are altered either up or down is affected, but again by not more than 5%.

The G31 has 4-wheel drive, rear steer, slightly more horsepower and is 200kg heavier, so why is it seemingly better on fuel?

I’d suggest the difference in consumptions comes from the fact the G31 design is 8/10 years newer. Better overall economy results from the sum of many, car wide, tiny incremental improvements made in pursuit of lower emissions.

Probably engine management/ gearbox mapping will be the key factor here. Brunhild is not always the silkiest of drives at low speeds which I suspect is due to fuel cutting and the box going into coast mode for a second or two. (As you know I’m paranoid about the engine!)

I’d love to drive yours by way of comparison, I reckon they’d prove to be completely different animals.

Oh, by the way, topped up tonight with V Power. Ouch!!!
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