E93 B3 S BiTurbo #231

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E93 B3 S BiTurbo #231

Post by Bob » Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:11 am

Another of the B3S Cabs up for sale. Not seen this one since 2018 when Listers sold it with 33k for £24k.

Not sure why, but the E93 B3S' have the highest concentration of bespoke interiors of any UK ALPINA model I've seen. By that I mean some combination of: lavalina options, bespoke stitched and/or bi-colour steering wheels rims, door or seat rhombs and leather edged floor mats. Only about 25% of them have standard blue/green stitched steering wheel in black leather, no rhombs on door armrest or seat backs and plain ALPINA badged mats.

B3 S BITURBO CABRIO [E93 LCI] #231; 300 - Alpine White III/LCSW - Black Dakota Leather; 2011_11; £27.0k; 38k; Private
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Re: E93 B3 S BiTurbo #231

Post by bobbly » Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:17 am

CaesarBob wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:11 am
Not sure why, but the E93 B3S' have the highest concentration of bespoke interiors of any UK ALPINA model I've seen.
I wonder how many of these were originally demo cars, and therefore specified a 'little differently' in an effort to persuade purchasers of the value of differentiation from the norm. Still too many have dark interiors, and white cars, especially droptops, look fabulous with red leather and highlights,

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Re: E93 B3 S BiTurbo #231

Post by Bob » Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:10 pm

bobbly wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:17 am
I wonder how many of these were originally demo cars, and therefore specified a 'little differently' in an effort to persuade purchasers of the value of differentiation from the norm. Still too many have dark interiors, and white cars, especially droptops, look fabulous with red leather and highlights,
I know three of them were shown a Goodwood in 2010 or 11 but curiously they all had standard blue/green stitch steering wheels, only one had leather edged mats but they did all have the rhombs on the armrests and two of them had black leather.

Half of them came with Black Dakota, only 3 had Coral Red Dakota.
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Re: E93 B3 S BiTurbo #231

Post by Pondrew » Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:44 pm

Hello again,
I have seen this car advertised and am very interested. It is now down to £24990.00. I am aware they have the N54 engine (with Alpina pistons and software IIRC) and I am familiar with this as I also have a Z4. If it is still for sale,, could someone give me some pointers to look for. I know about the potential problems with the hardtop (again got an E89 Z4).
Just from the pictures it looks like it needs wheels refurbed and the wheel centre hubs are not in the best nick.
Thanks for any feedback in advance.
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Re: E93 B3 S BiTurbo #231

Post by TonyS » Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:22 pm

I have found that the key to a smoothly operating hardtop - which I believe means longer term reliable - is in the regular maintenance of it.

By that, I mean about once every couple of months I treat the mechanism and seals to the care that is detailed in the (dare I mention it ? ... ummm ... yes ...) 'Bimmerfest' forum: "https://www.bimmerfest.com/threads/keep ... pe.609222/".
This is superb description of how to look after it.
When you have done it once, it becomes easy and not a chore.

I might add that when I first got the car, it seemed a sluggish movement; so I measured the power consumption of the hardtop operation, then again after my first maintenance session, and then the top consumed about 25% less current ( although it does vary a lot during each phase of operation ); so I suspect the battery life probably might be a little longer now - although as a rule I usually only operate it with the engine running.

As a footnote .. IMO if the wheels/hubs need a refurb then maybe the price is a bit too high ?
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Re: E93 B3 S BiTurbo #231

Post by ade and liz flint » Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:08 pm

TonyS wrote:
Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:22 pm
As a footnote .. IMO if the wheels/hubs need a refurb then maybe the price is a bit too high ?
It is. Most common model of its type: they're often on sale, a little monochrome and dare I say underwhelming. It also doesn't look truly 'loved'.

Knock another £3k off to around £22k and then it's 'about right'. I used plenty of E93 sale numbers in the mix before deciding the asking price of the E91.
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Re: E93 B3 S BiTurbo #231

Post by B10BRW » Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:13 pm

ade and liz flint wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:08 pm
TonyS wrote:
Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:22 pm
As a footnote .. IMO if the wheels/hubs need a refurb then maybe the price is a bit too high ?
Most common model of its type.
I would say more desirable of it's type :D , 25 is hardly common.

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Re: E93 B3 S BiTurbo #231

Post by hap » Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:15 am

Thought this was now at bohem auction can’t see the link

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Re: E93 B3 S BiTurbo #231

Post by Bob » Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:04 am

It is hap: B3 S BITURBO CABRIO [E93 LCI] #231; 300 - Alpine White III/LCSW - Black Dakota Leather; 2011_11; £16.0k; 39k; eAuction

Just been looking at the service book entries, the condition based servicing is quite confusing.
Oil Changes at:
11mths/6.1k miles
25mths/11.3k miles
24mths/7.3k miles
26mths/8.1k miles
18mths/4.0k miles

Brake Fluid:
24mths/6k miles
25mths/11.3k miles
22mths/6.4k miles
47mths/13.0k miles

Spark Plugs & Air Filter:
36mths/17.3k miles
Since last change: 88mths/21.7k miles :?

Rear Brakes:
Never changed?
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Re: E93 B3 S BiTurbo #231

Post by ade and liz flint » Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:20 pm

B10BRW wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:13 pm
ade and liz flint wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:08 pm

Most common model of its type.
I would say more desirable of it's type :D , 25 is hardly common.
'Desirable' leads to fast sale at correct price. Well maintained 1/3 E91: 3 days. Price...unimportant. Most common UK model with questionable history (re CB info) ...takes a while especially at this price. For that era of petrol Alpina in the UK, these rate at 'quite common'. I disliked the weight distribution of the E93, hence avoided them in the past, and the boot space with the roof down is silly (I know this as I ran an E93 for a thankfully very short time). I think most buyers realise the practicality just isn't there.
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Re: E93 B3 S BiTurbo #231

Post by B10BRW » Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:37 pm

ade and liz flint wrote:
Wed Oct 13, 2021 2:20 pm
B10BRW wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:13 pm
ade and liz flint wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:08 pm

Most common model of its type.
I would say more desirable of it's type :D , 25 is hardly common.
I disliked the weight distribution of the E93, hence avoided them in the past, and the boot space with the roof down is silly (I know this as I ran an E93 for a thankfully very short time). I think most buyers realise the practicality just isn't there.
I would disagree with you there, I am having no problems with weight distribution, perhaps because it is an Alpina with the extra power and better balance.
Also I was doubtful about the available boot space, but have found it more than adequate for the 2 of us for a weeks trip.
It is all down to whether you like convertibles, I love them, the sense of freedom is difficult to beat.
The only downside is our c**p weather.
Having had both B3.3 an B3S E46 versions I find the E93 superior in every way.
Hopefully next year I will be able to take it to the K-H-K meeting in Germany :D

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Re: E93 B3 S BiTurbo #231

Post by Simon B » Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:02 pm

Sold for £20850 on the Bonhams auction
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Re: E93 B3 S BiTurbo #231

Post by ade and liz flint » Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:22 am

Simon B wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:02 pm
Sold for £20850 on the Bonhams auction
'About right' then.
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Re: E93 B3 S BiTurbo #231

Post by Simon B » Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:33 pm

Yes probably about right

I did have a cheeky bid at £19k on the basis I think it would need about £2k to make spot on and at £21k it would have been a bargain. Would have kept it until the spring and tried to get the better half to part with the E46 and sell one of them.

Even at the selling price and then a couple of grand someone will have a nice car at £23k IMHO

I wonder if it is someone on here
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