Selling Hellrot red 2001 B3 3.3 Coupe Advice Please

[hashluck]

Looks good in red, quite unusual for E46 B3's. To me both front wings look a slightly darker shade than the rest of the car, or is it just the lighting?

Yes, seems very noticeable on some pics

Both front wings have been replaced (as stated in the original post) so this would probably explain it.

Yep, good point

[Bob]

Looks good in red, quite unusual for E46 B3's. To me both front wings look a slightly darker shade than the rest of the car, or is it just the lighting?

Yes, seems very noticeable on some pics

Both front wings have been replaced (as stated in the original post) so this would probably explain it.

Spot the teacher

[bobbly]

Spot the teacher

Shame someone wasn't taught about paint matching Red is a complete sod to match, but it can be done

Cheers
Bobbly

[Charles]

Shame someone wasn't taught about paint matching Red is a complete sod to match, but it can be done

Cheers
Bobbly

Is that because red paint is more susceptible to fading due to UV light than other colours, making a paint match more than just picking the original red?

[Charles]

Shame someone wasn't taught about paint matching Red is a complete sod to match, but it can be done

Cheers
Bobbly

Is that because red paint is more susceptible to fading due to UV light than other colours, making a paint match more than just picking the original red?

There, I've answered my own question ...

Red paint reflects red light. It therefore absorbs blue, green, UV etc light. The shorter wavelengths of light have greater energy and cause more "bleaching" of the pigments in the paint than the other colours. Therefore it fades quicker.

[bobbly]

Shame someone wasn't taught about paint matching Red is a complete sod to match, but it can be done

Cheers
Bobbly

Is that because red paint is more susceptible to fading due to UV light than other colours, making a paint match more than just picking the original red?

There, I've answered my own question ...

Red paint reflects red light. It therefore absorbs blue, green, UV etc light. The shorter wavelengths of light have greater energy and cause more "bleaching" of the pigments in the paint than the other colours. Therefore it fades quicker.

Correct. Same with yellow. Much more effort is therefore required in blending the paint colour to match the degree of fade, and as the paint continues to age, the issue continues to manifest, so always best to paint a complete side if it's a long term project or one would be back to it in no time to correct the shading. Most colours are easily blended into existing paint by continuing the blend into the adjacent panels only.


The 'best' red cars used to be old polos and corsas where the paint on metal fades at a different rate to that on plastics ( eg bumpers) and gives a startling mismatch in time if unattended with polishes and sealants from the start. Yellow was so notorious for fade that VAG stopped producing cars in that hue as it faded so quickly after the change to water based paints, but they seem to have sorted it now so it's no worse than red.....

Cheers
Bobbly

[Bob]

After the last ad I saw on eBay in Jul-21 at £6.5k/114.6k, this has resurfaced on Marketplace sporting some lovely fat eBay dekor, 114k miles and a 100% price rise.

B3 3.3 COUPE [E46] #140; 314 - Bright Red/N6SW - Black Montana Leather; 2001_Y; £13.0k; 115k; Private

[B10BRW]

Oh dear

[Bob]

Another red one for your collection Brian?

[B10BRW]

Another red one for your collection Brian?

Don't think so Bob , overpriced too many miles, and grim looking stripes

Still looking for a Red touring though, either fuel.
When I bought my B3S BT back in 2011 a chap was just collecting his Red Touring, it looked stunning.
Perhaps you can tell me how may Red ones are out there.

[Bob]

Don't think so Bob , overpriced too many miles, and grim looking stripes

Still looking for a Red touring though, either fuel.
When I bought my B3S BT back in 2011 a chap was just collecting his Red Touring, it looked stunning.
Perhaps you can tell me how may Red ones are out there.

That sounds like a fair summation.

Red Tourings are a rarity, these are all the ones I've heard of:
C2 2.7 TOURING [E30] #8011; 138 - Cinnabar Red/ALP1 - ALPINA Cloth; 1989_F; 207k;
C2 2.7 TOURING [E30] #8200; 138 - Cinnabar Red/0269 - Anthracite Velour Cloth; 1989_F;
B3 ALLRAD TOURING [G21] #339; * Ferrari Red (Sonderlack)/FRG-[CS20]-20-[Himalaya Grey], DKR-FS-[Black], E-SHD/ZBSW - Black Merino Leather; 2021_71; 0k;
B10 3.3 TOURING [E39] #014; 362 - Sienna Red II/Gold Dekor/N6SN - Sand Beige Montana Leather; 2000_W; 201k;

D3 BITURBO TOURING [E91 LCI] #320 A61 - Crimson Red/ Silver Dekor/FMAT - Anthracite Impulse Cloth/Leather; 2011_61; 78k;
D3 BITURBO TOURING [E91 LCI] #322 ** Crimson Red/FMAT - Anthracite Impulse Cloth/Leather; [Definitely a UK car, was spotted in 2022]
D3 BITURBO TOURING [F31] #079 A75 - Melbourne Red/LCL3 - Black Dakota w Red Stitch Leather; 2015_64; 68k;
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[ade and liz flint]

One E91 LCI D3Biturbo in crimson was bought new by a chap in NI, Bob. May be one of the two you've detailed above.

[Bob]

One E91 LCI D3Biturbo in crimson was bought new by a chap in NI, Bob. May be one of the two you've detailed above.

#320 is that one Ade, it’s been back over here for a good few years. Now owned by a chap who frequents the Facebook groups

[ade and liz flint]

#320 is that one Ade

Thought the numbers looked familiar: helped original owner source it re colour decision. Nice thing.

[Bob]

It's a cracking looking D3