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Re: PS4 being phased out? Now superseded by PS5?

Post by rc944 » Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:56 pm

got some ps5's fitted to the front of my coupe today and will get them put on the rear when they need replacing
paid 206 fitted from pro tyre who i have evangelised about before on here.
they have a very sexy sidewall if into that kind of thing
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Re: PS4 being phased out? Now superseded by PS5?

Post by Wellsy » Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:41 pm

I have been watching the "tyrereviews" guy on you tube, his videos are very long and detailed, but if you skip to the end and get the results gives a good overview of which tire's performed best. In general, PS5 are coming out top of joint top and the only difference I have heard between PS5 and PS4s is that the 4s is a little more track focused.
The PS5 from his reviews is coming out as one of, if not, the best road tire available today.

For me I don't do any track day's so I will be changing my tires for Ps5 when the time is right, which will be in next few months.
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Re: PS4 being phased out? Now superseded by PS5?

Post by Frosty » Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:50 pm

I have been watching Michelin site for my sizes of the PS5, still not available for the rear!

Update, Michelin replied to my enquiry over production of 285x30x20 - reply was they do not have this information available at the moment, grrrr.
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Re: PS4 being phased out? Now superseded by PS5?

Post by JohnW » Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:08 pm

I read the wear rate was considerably less and grip very comparable so that’s good news for all.
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Re: PS4 being phased out? Now superseded by PS5?

Post by Wellsy » Mon Nov 21, 2022 2:25 pm

I e-mailed Michelin to ask about availability of 265/35/19 but alas they say they do not make them and have no timeline on when they will be available. prices from Blackcircles - fitted
Fronts -
PS4's 245/35/19 - £236ea
PS5 245/35/19 - £225ea

Rears -
PS4's 265/35/19 - £278ea
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Re: PS4 being phased out? Now superseded by PS5?

Post by JohnW » Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:24 pm

Wellsy wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 2:25 pm
I e-mailed Michelin to ask about availability of 265/35/19 but alas they say they do not make them…
That’s nuts, the rears are standard M3 for the E90, E92 and E93 etc as well as D3 and B3, yet they have the fronts.
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Re: PS4 being phased out? Now superseded by PS5?

Post by Wellsy » Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:51 am

That’s nuts, the rears are standard M3 for the E90, E92 and E93 etc as well as D3 and B3, yet they have the fronts.


I know it's annoying, I wanted to put a fresh set all round and really wanted matching tires. I know it won't actually make much difference if I go Ps5 front and Ps4s rear but looks wise I'd rather have Ps5 all round.
Looks like I'll be going for PS4's all round, which again is also fine, if not what I wanted.
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Re: PS4 being phased out? Now superseded by PS5?

Post by Frosty » Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:48 pm

Wellsy wrote:
Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:51 am
That’s nuts, the rears are standard M3 for the E90, E92 and E93 etc as well as D3 and B3, yet they have the fronts.


I know it's annoying, I wanted to put a fresh set all round and really wanted matching tires. I know it won't actually make much difference if I go Ps5 front and Ps4s rear but looks wise I'd rather have Ps5 all round.
Looks like I'll be going for PS4's all round, which again is also fine, if not what I wanted.
That is the same for me too. The F11 rear boots are also a common size for some of the new M series cars, I keep waiting to see if the 285's appear on the website, but will have to get new boots soon as MOT is just over a month away!
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Re: PS4 being phased out? Now superseded by PS5?

Post by Wellsy » Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:06 pm

so having another look, and 275/35/19 are available. So, I'm thinking will these fit? Unless someone else has done this and is all good I wont take the risk spending £500 quid on tires that might end up rubbing and being no good.
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Re: PS4 being phased out? Now superseded by PS5?

Post by JohnW » Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:59 pm

I wouldn’t risk it unless someone else can confirm and not from an M3 as the rear arches on ours are not the M models with factory specific wider arches, they are already standard SE model and rolled to fit 265s, so stating the obvious, for 275s to fit, the 265s will need at least 5mm clearance to the arch and the damper inside.

Even the E92 GT3 has 265s.

It appears Michelin may have dropped the size as factory OEM now are Pirelli’s, thank you but no thanks.
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Re: PS4 being phased out? Now superseded by PS5?

Post by Wellsy » Thu Nov 24, 2022 6:19 pm

With Ps5 not being available in 265/35/19 and I presume PS4S will be phased out - Do I then switch to Pirelli P Zero (PZ4) Alpina fitment??

For now, I'll stick to PS4s until they are not available then have to think about switching.
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Re: PS4 being phased out? Now superseded by PS5?

Post by JohnW » Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:05 pm

I’m not sure if Michelin are replacing both the PS4 and PS4s with the PS5?

A few tyre websites say that the PS5 is a replacement for the PS4 and the PS4s was a replacement for the Super Sports. If this is correct then the 265/35 19 will remain unchanged and still available in PS4s form for the foreseeable. Pity as the PS5 has some great reviews and lasts longer than the same size PS4.
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