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Finally joined the club with a G21 B3

Post by Jonnywishbone » Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:14 pm

Finally!

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I’ve wanted an Alpina since I got my license as a 17 year old, so more than 20 years ago now. I couldn't even tell you why exactly, though I have an idea. I always thought BMW’s were pretty cool and the E46 came out around the time and I loved and still love the look of that car in all its flavours. As for Alpina? I’m a natural contrarian and an Alpina was and is a BMW, but just a bit different. That being said an Alpina is not the natural choice for a late teen/early 20-something so, though I’d always double take whenever I saw one on the road and admire from afar, buying one was not on my radar for the next 15 years. My most recent experiences of standard BMW’s have been an E86 Z4 (a car I regret selling to this day) and my previous car, an M240i. The latter is very good, has E46-esque proportions and is a surprisingly decent all rounder. However it’s not particularly special, aside from perhaps the genuinely brilliant (and dare I say it somewhat Alpina-like in character?) B58 engine.

I started seriously looking into Alpina as a potential purchase a few years ago, when I first got to actually step in to and drive one - an F30 D3 Sytner demo - soon after it was released. That car sold me on the desire to own one (or a B3) however life circumstances got in the way so the plan was shelved.

Fast forward to 2020; with a second and final child on the way, I started looking around for a suitable family car just before lockdown and not long after the new B3 had been unveiled in Frankfurt which re-awakened the want for an Alpina. Despite that I dutifully looked at the competition; I don’t like the C-Class shape so a C63 was never in contention. The M340i is a quality car, is obviously the basis for the B3 and I did test one but ultimately it felt like a sideways move rather than a step up, given it is powered by an evolved version of the B58. I did and do like the look of the RS4 and actually got to the stage of putting down a deposit - with a hefty discount the price worked out 25% less than an equivalent B3 which is not to be sniffed at - but in the end I knew that whilst the Audi is a good car, I’d end up feeling about it as I do my current car; that it’s competent, but not special. So I contacted Sytner HW and more or less instantly placed an order. The test drive came later and whilst that’s obviously not the ideal way around, I was confident I wouldn’t be disappointed both because of how good the F30 D3 was and how good the donor car is, both of which I had driven.

Fast forward again several months more and here she is...

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On the one hand there’s a reasonably decent amount of kit that comes standard on the car including electric heated front seats, rear parking camera and even a heated steering wheel. There isn’t anything it doesn’t have that you really need. On the other hand there are some surprising, Scrooge-like omissions. It’s frankly bizarre that on a £70k car, the base seats are Alcantara and leatherette, for example.

Having said that and whilst acknowledging that some folk gently bemoan first owners penny pinching on options, having ticked lots of option boxes on previous cars “for resale value” or simply because I could, only to feel a pang of regret because I never really used the options and they made sod-all difference to resale anyway I decided I was going to spec this car purely for myself. I suspect this will be the last fully ICE car I ever buy new and I’m not desperate yet to jump on to the electric train, so I’m planning on keeping the car for many years.

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For those who are interested and to help Bob keep his fantastic spreadsheet up to date, the spec over standard includes:
  • Alpina Blue II paint
  • 20” Classic wheels
These are forged unlike the standard (and very fetching) 19” Dynamics but I’d be lying if I said I got them for the 14kg unsprung mass saving rather than for the looks.
  • Black Vernasca leather seats
I’m apparently weird in that I prefer winter to summer, tend to sit in darkness at home and like my cars to be hovel-like. Plus my kids are both under four and whilst I thoroughly enjoy detailing the outside of my car, I find cleaning the inside is a pain in my arse. Hence my choice of Doom Black™ interior. Cognac looks good, mind. My concession to flamboyance was to request the factory apply blue contrast stitching to match the exterior. They do not do this for free. Personally I’m not bothered in the slightest by the quality of the hide in the cabin. My jeans-clad arse can’t tell the difference between Vernasca (which is Dakota with a new PR officer) and Merino, let alone Lavalina and to paraphrase the great philosopher, stationary salesman and football club chairman Theo Paphitis, I have to be really bothered if I’m going to spend a 4 or 5 figure chunk of my children’s inheritance on something that doesn’t improve the function of the car.

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  • HK sound
  • Drive Recorder
A dashcam without parking function but with front, rear and lateral channels.
  • Leatherette dash top with matching blue stitching
  • Aluminium paddle shifters
  • Galvanic embellisher for controls
A few of the switches are silver instead of black - contrasts with the mostly black dash.
  • Lumbar support
  • Parking Assistant Plus
A few more cameras, gives a top down and 3D view useful for when the wife takes the wheel, especially as the rim protection from the tyres is non-existent and the alloys are almost convex rather that the more classic dish shape.
  • Power folding mirrors
  • Rear sun blinds
For the chiddlers, natch.
  • Tinted rear windows
Yeah, Marmite I know. Unlike previous generations the side window surrounds and roof rails are black by default and can’t be optioned in chrome. I like the look.

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Having only been handed the car earlier today I haven’t been able to drive the thing for any length of time to be able to tell you what it’s like, beyond the fact that it’s a) ballistically fast, b) way, way more comfortable than any near 500hp estate wearing 20” rims and 30 profile tyres has any right to be and c) is resistant to body roll in whatever setting the dampers are in. So basically, it’s an Alpina.

Dislikes? The exhaust note is remarkably muted for a 460+HP straight six; welcome to motoring in 2021 I guess. The cutouts for the door handles don’t look great though clearly that’s an issue with the donor car. The steering wheel is absolutely massive girth-wise. I haven’t especially minded this on previous BMWs as they’ve lacked much in the way of steering feel anyway. However this one is on another level entirely and the main issue is I can’t get into a position where I can see the entirety of the electronic instrument binnacle. There’s also a whistling noise coming from just above the top of windscreen above about 50mph, which is ironic as the car is fitted with a small spoiler in that area to reduce wind whistle at high speed. I will investigate this in due course.

One word on the dealer; prior to placing my order I was in two minds about whether to order via my local dealer, Sytner HW which is very conveniently close to me, or to order directly from Nottingham. I know there have been one or two others on here who have had to make a similar decision and several have ordered cars from Nottingham in preference to their nearest Sytner. I ended up going with the convenient option of HW. With the caveat that I suspect I am close to the perfect customer - I knew almost exactly what I wanted from the start and I’m generally pretty chilled so could handle the delays in delivery of a car I ordered in July - I can’t fault the experience. In particular the guy that handles Alpina sales there does seem to get the brand and I would buy another car from him. I might be wrong but I can’t imagine that I could have got a substantially better service from Nottingham.

I appreciate most of you reading are here for the pics rather than the novella that precedes them, but thanks to those who have read the lot. Note the car is filthy because I asked them not to clean it - I’ve seen horrible swirling on dealer prepped brand new cars. I have a whole day booked off later in the week so I can do the detailing thing. I might post some better pics then. I’ll also aim to add my thoughts about the ownership/driving experience in due course

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Re: Finally joined the club with a G21 B3

Post by hap » Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:33 pm

Great read my sentiments also
Lovely motor enjoy !

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Re: Finally joined the club with a G21 B3

Post by D3orbust » Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:54 pm

One word......stunning.
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Re: Finally joined the club with a G21 B3

Post by Yad3100 » Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:02 pm

Must admit that the G21 is growing on me, pity I would have to sell all my cars and the wife to afford one.

It really suits the alpina blue colour, enjoy.
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Re: Finally joined the club with a G21 B3

Post by Lizard Lounger » Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:17 pm

Congatulations. Enjoy the car - it looks wonderful 👍😊
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Re: Finally joined the club with a G21 B3

Post by Bob » Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:49 am

Congratulations Jonny, can’t say I’m not a little jealous! :mrgreen:

Appreciate the heads up on options but a little saddened to hear you chose to disregard the wishes of future custodians. Tut tut :lol:
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Re: Finally joined the club with a G21 B3

Post by Wellsy » Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:55 am

Look great, did you get from Sytner High Wycombe? If so I'm not far away in Princes Risborough. If you know the area and your passing the train station look out for my E90 D3 biturbo in black, with gold decals.
I can't drive it at the moment, but that's a whole different story, nothing wrong with the car. Hoping to be back behind the wheel soonish.

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Re: Finally joined the club with a G21 B3

Post by nkotecha » Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:46 am

Has it got active cruise or driving assistance plus?
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Re: Finally joined the club with a G21 B3

Post by Jonnywishbone » Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:27 am

Thank you all.
Wellsy wrote:
Sun Mar 07, 2021 5:55 am
Look great, did you get from Sytner High Wycombe? If so I'm not far away in Princes Risborough. If you know the area and your passing the train station look out for my E90 D3 biturbo in black, with gold decals.
I can't drive it at the moment, but that's a whole different story, nothing wrong with the car. Hoping to be back behind the wheel soonish.

Mark.
I read about your predicament either on here or elsewhere Mark; I hope you get it sorted and are back on the road soon. You also made me realise that there’s more than one Sytner “HW”! I got mine from the other one, Harold Wood.
nkotecha wrote:
Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:46 am
Has it got active cruise or driving assistance plus?
No. I’ve used Audi’s system in my wife’s car and whilst it is genuinely excellent, after a year and a half I still just don’t trust it. That’s not the fault of the system as it really does pretty much drive itself, can take evasive action etc. It’s psychological and it means I never relax when it’s on, which obviously defeats the point.
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Re: Finally joined the club with a G21 B3

Post by Frosty » Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:27 am

How very exciting, as you take the car not long before some freedoms return to us! Enjoy it.

Must say I am not a fan of the new fat steering wheels either :D
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Re: Finally joined the club with a G21 B3

Post by Marc 76 » Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:03 pm

Great write up, amazing looking car (oh what it must be to configure your own!) and best username I have seen in a while.

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Re: Finally joined the club with a G21 B3

Post by big blue » Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:41 pm

Great looking B3 and nice purchase.
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Re: Finally joined the club with a G21 B3

Post by MikeR » Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:44 pm

Want!

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Re: Finally joined the club with a G21 B3

Post by hashluck » Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:56 pm

That was a great read and what Alpina ownership is all about, thank you.

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Re: Finally joined the club with a G21 B3

Post by Jonnywishbone » Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:30 pm

Quick aside - I mistakenly stated that the car has a small spoiler at the top of the windscreen to reduce wind noise. Admiring the car this morning, like you do, I realised there isn’t! Went onto the Sytner used car site and found cars on there that do have the spoiler. Cue several minutes of confusion, wondering if Alpina somehow managed to forget to install it. Then I twigged - the spoiler must be for cars with the pan roof as I recall reading it is designed to stop turbulence caused by the interface between the sunroof and roof proper.
Marc 76 wrote:
Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:03 pm
Great write up, amazing looking car (oh what it must be to configure your own!) and best username I have seen in a while.

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I knew you were going to say that 8)

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