Alpina B12 ?
Alpina B12 ?
Anyone know anything about this B12 ?
Non Alpina steering wheel and a couple of other things makes me wonder but I still sort of have the jones for a B12
http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/ca ... 4351246474
Non Alpina steering wheel and a couple of other things makes me wonder but I still sort of have the jones for a B12
http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/ca ... 4351246474
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B3S - #059 Mora Metallic (sold)
B5 Biturbo - #003 Shade of Sophisto Grey (sold)
B3 Biturbo - #158 Black 'n Black (sold)
B3S - #059 Mora Metallic (sold)
Maybe - I am not so interested that I am going to look at it - it just looks vastly more 850i than B12. Maybe I have a 'problem' with it because it is a Sytner 'conversion' and not an Alpina build. The Alpina plate location does not look 'right' and there are a few other things that make me expect it to be 850 pricing rather than B12. I think that the other big thing for me is the lack of that B12 louvred bonnet .... those are really to die for.
Here is the interior shot of an Alpina built B12 from 2000 (with an airbag steering wheel) ;
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/uploads/ ... 075560.jpg
This is the interior of Frank Sytners personal B12 from 1987 without the airbag wheel;
http://cdn.images.pistonheads.com/aimg/ ... 3303-5.jpg
Here is the interior shot of an Alpina built B12 from 2000 (with an airbag steering wheel) ;
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/uploads/ ... 075560.jpg
This is the interior of Frank Sytners personal B12 from 1987 without the airbag wheel;
http://cdn.images.pistonheads.com/aimg/ ... 3303-5.jpg
XD3 Biturbo - #467 Deep Sea Blue
B5 Biturbo - #003 Shade of Sophisto Grey (sold)
B3 Biturbo - #158 Black 'n Black (sold)
B3S - #059 Mora Metallic (sold)
B5 Biturbo - #003 Shade of Sophisto Grey (sold)
B3 Biturbo - #158 Black 'n Black (sold)
B3S - #059 Mora Metallic (sold)
I've been to see this car and, as the advertisement says, this is a Sytner conversion rather than a full ALPINA build.
As such, whilst it has ALPINA mechanicals, the interior isn't obviously ALPINA (for all the reasons stated).
Paintwork is good (apart from the nose where someone has carelessly nudged too far forward into something) but could appreciate some TLC - as could the interior.
From what I could gather, it hasn't been run much recently and may well benefit from a good service and proper running to "clear the tubes".
I was unsure when I went to see it but the provenance seems right and the dealer wasn't trying to pull the wool over my eyes. In fact, he was more interested in my car!
Price is, IMHO, a bit rich, but then there is always wiggle room in prices these days.
HTH
C
As such, whilst it has ALPINA mechanicals, the interior isn't obviously ALPINA (for all the reasons stated).
Paintwork is good (apart from the nose where someone has carelessly nudged too far forward into something) but could appreciate some TLC - as could the interior.
From what I could gather, it hasn't been run much recently and may well benefit from a good service and proper running to "clear the tubes".
I was unsure when I went to see it but the provenance seems right and the dealer wasn't trying to pull the wool over my eyes. In fact, he was more interested in my car!
Price is, IMHO, a bit rich, but then there is always wiggle room in prices these days.
HTH
C
Charles
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Teacher of Chemistry and driver of ALPINAs - not necessarily in that order
B3S Touring (49/116) - been to the moon and now on the way back!
Renault Grand Espace - not mine but the wife's!
Charles - Thanks for the extra info.
I am still much more than happy with my B3S but as I stacked on 35k miles in the last year, I get to thinking about what might be next every so often. Or as well as
Clearing the tubes would not be a problem - filling that tank so often might be
Yes that is probably most of my concern and I would be asking for an awful lot of wiggle ...Price is, IMHO, a bit rich, but then there is always wiggle room in prices these days.
I am still much more than happy with my B3S but as I stacked on 35k miles in the last year, I get to thinking about what might be next every so often. Or as well as
Clearing the tubes would not be a problem - filling that tank so often might be
XD3 Biturbo - #467 Deep Sea Blue
B5 Biturbo - #003 Shade of Sophisto Grey (sold)
B3 Biturbo - #158 Black 'n Black (sold)
B3S - #059 Mora Metallic (sold)
B5 Biturbo - #003 Shade of Sophisto Grey (sold)
B3 Biturbo - #158 Black 'n Black (sold)
B3S - #059 Mora Metallic (sold)
pretty sure this is the car that was on our display at Gaydon a few years back... (I believe he bought the plate from Richard C)
http://www.thealpinaregister.com/photo/ ... gassman/10
http://www.thealpinaregister.com/photo/ ... gassman/10
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1984 E28 B9 3.5
1989 E32 B11 3.5
2000 E39 B10 V8 Touring
2005 E85 Roadster S #344
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While it's a lot of money, it has to be better value than this (which has already come down £5k!!)
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1459864.htm
[Waits for the sound of Chas choking on his cornflakes )
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1459864.htm
[Waits for the sound of Chas choking on his cornflakes )
Regards,
James
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James
2022 BMW X7 40d M-Sport
2019 BMW X5 M50d
2018 BMW M760Li
2017 BMW 530i M-Sport Touring (SOLD)
2012 BMW 520d ED (Gave it back)
2011 BMW 535d GT SE (SOLD)
2008 BMW 730d SE (SOLD)
2007 BMW X5 3.0d SE (SOLD)
2007 D3 Touring 166 (SOLD)
2005 BMW 750i Sport (SOLD)
2005 BMW 730d Sport (SOLD)
2001 B10 V8 Touring 012/1 (SOLD)
2001 B10 V8 saloon 044/1 (SOLD)
1999 BMW 750iL (SOLD)
1997 BMW 750iL (SOLD)
I've already engaged in discussion on that one, perhaps on another forum. At least it appears to be a Buchloe car but I wouldn't break 5 figures for it. It's a 17 year old motor which hasn't had any restorative work done so it's potentially a huge money pit for anyone who's not an expert in E31s.v8 ego wrote:[Waits for the sound of Chas choking on his cornflakes )
The photos are over 3 years old and it was for sale a while ago (with the same pictures).
Sorry for the heresy but a CSi can be had for £10k and is a much better investment.
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Chas , A 10K CSi is also going to be in need of restoration work, the one's which have been properly maintained are going for £15KChas wrote:I've already engaged in discussion on that one, perhaps on another forum. At least it appears to be a Buchloe car but I wouldn't break 5 figures for it. It's a 17 year old motor which hasn't had any restorative work done so it's potentially a huge money pit for anyone who's not an expert in E31s.v8 ego wrote:[Waits for the sound of Chas choking on his cornflakes )
The photos are over 3 years old and it was for sale a while ago (with the same pictures).
Sorry for the heresy but a CSi can be had for £10k and is a much better investment.
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