Quaife ATB LSD fitted to Roadster S

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Quaife ATB LSD fitted to Roadster S

Post by PerryGunn » Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:51 pm

...as #320 will be ten this year, I've treated her to an early birthday prezzie... a Quaife ATB LSD. The Quaife is a gear-based torque sensing diff so no maintenance required and a lifetime guarantee - which is nice.

As Birds are the main agent for all Quaife's BMW diffs, I thought that they'd be the best people to fit it, so I sorted out all the arrangements with James Bird and took her in today for the LSD, I also decided that she was probably due for a gearbox oil change - it's cheap and much easier on a lift than on axle stands

#320 waiting for open-diff surgery
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Into the workshop, up on the lift and work starts
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There goes the exhaust & heatshield
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Diff out in next to no time
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Wish I had a lift or a pit, I'd be able to clean all that :oops:
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OEM diff dismantled - new Quaife diff in centre
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Sometime later, Quaife diff mantled into OEM casing
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In best Haines manual tradition, assembly was the reverse of disassembly...

Total time taken was approx 4 1/2 hours - which I thought was pretty good, especially as I was waiting while it was done. During the install I inspected the underside and bushings with the mechanic - all tip top and no need to replace anything

I then drove the 65 miles home, it was a reasonable before/after comparison as I took the same route this morning just did it in reverse to get home

Birds is very close to the M4\M25 junction so, after getting out of Iver, the first 25-or-so miles were motorway, which was good as Quaife say that you should take things easy for the first 10 miles - I guess this is to ensure that everything is well lubricated - but there were no audible indications that an LSD had been fitted, no whines, clunks or clonks, it was perfectly behaved in town and with, brisk, straight-line acceleration up to motorway speeds and during motorway cruising it was all but invisible - I did dive into Cobham services though, and straight back out again, just so I could try the fast curves that Cobham has on the entrance/exit roads :lol:

Once off the motorway, DTC was selected (I didn't want to be too gung-ho and turn everything off immediately) as the rest of the journey home was a combination of twisty B-roads and fast A-roads with lots of roundabouts. The car felt different, but in a good way, it seemed much more eager to turn into bends and didn't need quite as much steering input, the tighter the bend the more it tucked itself in. The twisties were definitely more fun and when the A-road roundabouts were empty allowing a fast entry, and faster exit, I could feel the extra traction 8)

As it's been a nice, dry, Spring day, there weren't really any damp/greasy surfaces which I think would have created a bigger contrast but, overall, I'm very pleased,

All-in-all, I don't think I'll be swapping back to an open diff....
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Post by D3orbust » Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:43 pm

Great write up.

Have they still got the Black B3 for sale?
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Post by KevinM » Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:09 pm

Interesting post as I am considering the same for my B5.
How much did it cost?
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Post by PerryGunn » Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:14 pm

D3orbust wrote:Great write up.

Have they still got the Black B3 for sale?
I didn't see it, but I didn't go looking so they could have
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Post by PerryGunn » Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:15 pm

KevinM wrote:Interesting post as I am considering the same for my B5.
How much did it cost?
Prices for supply only and supply and fit by Birds are here
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Post by Mickl » Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:44 pm

Nice write up Perry.

Very interesting to read. It might be something I would consider for my RS
in the future.

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Post by Ashok » Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:38 pm

I've always heard good things about them.
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Post by Charles » Fri Mar 13, 2015 1:09 pm

LSD or return the shock absorbers to OEM ...

... what to spend this year's TLC budget on :?:

Very useful write-up Perry - thank you :D
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Post by PerryGunn » Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:24 am

Charles wrote:LSD or return the shock absorbers to OEM ...

... what to spend this year's TLC budget on :?:
If the shocks will last another year go for the LSD, at some point you can always justify new shocks as 'normal' wear-and-tear but the LSD is a luxury - isn't that what a TLC budget is for? :wink:
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Post by PliSsK » Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:13 pm

Great write up and congrats on the install! They must be happy to see such an enthusiastic customer. Have you had a chance to try it out in snow at all yet? I know we haven't had so much snow since then. Cheers.
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Post by PerryGunn » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:18 pm

PliSsK wrote:Great write up and congrats on the install! They must be happy to see such an enthusiastic customer. Have you had a chance to try it out in snow at all yet? I know we haven't had so much snow since then. Cheers.
Snow...No chance! She doesn't even leave the garage during the winter :D
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Post by PliSsK » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:58 pm

PerryGunn wrote:Snow...No chance! She doesn't even leave the garage during the winter :D
:D
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Post by Mike Pitt » Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:24 am

PerryGunn wrote:
PliSsK wrote:Great write up and congrats on the install! They must be happy to see such an enthusiastic customer. Have you had a chance to try it out in snow at all yet? I know we haven't had so much snow since then. Cheers.
Snow...No chance! She doesn't even leave the garage during the winter :D
....then you're missing out on the biggest driving treat:

winter tyres + Quaife + snow = :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

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Post by Avtar » Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:55 am

Going to get this done on the D5
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Post by PliSsK » Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:12 pm

Mike Pitt wrote:
PerryGunn wrote:
PliSsK wrote:Great write up and congrats on the install! They must be happy to see such an enthusiastic customer. Have you had a chance to try it out in snow at all yet? I know we haven't had so much snow since then. Cheers.
Snow...No chance! She doesn't even leave the garage during the winter :D
....then you're missing out on the biggest driving treat:

winter tyres + Quaife + snow = :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
summer tyres on wet or greasy roundabouts...winter is my favourite car season. 8)
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