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Advice appreciated on E39 B10 Purchase
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chas wrote:
Alpinanewbie wrote:
Also sent the work carried out on the engine.

Am I the only one who finds it odd that there is no mention of pistons/rings with a rebored block? Would it be acceptable to reuse the old ones?


No respectable person would reuse the piston rings from another block.
Alarm bells are ringing after reading this thread. I'd get a cc check done, a crude one will tell you that if the stroke is wrong, then the bore is probably wrong too!

Also, if you peer into the bores with a torch ( assuming you can on the V8 ) then you should see something stamped on the pistons. i.e. in my M3 i can see 'S50' and an arrow so it will confirm that is/is not a 540 engine.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Qty Description Price
Invoice No: 102479 Page 1 of 1
296.00 Remove and strip engine
fit rebored engine block and seemble refit and comission into car
1.00 Block s/h
1.00 Rebore block - subcontract
1.00 Environmental Disposal Charge 1.00 Block cover
1.00 SEALANT **COS ONLY**
1.00 Head gasket M62 4.6 r/h
1.00 Gasket, cylinder head , M62 4.6 l/h 1.00 M60 Upper T/c Gas
1.00 M62 upper tc gasket
22.00 Seal, rocker nut , M50/2/4/60/62, S50,62 1.00 ROCKER GASKET SET M60/M62 RIGHT 1.00 ROCKER GASKET SET, M60/M62 LEFT 2.00 Head bolt kit M60 M62
10.00 Bolt, Main bearing cap M60 M62 1.00 Upper sump gasket M62
1.00 lower sump gasket M62
2.00 boot strut

Total plus the VAT - 3.744.71


Curious...how far has it gone since that work was done?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My guess, but you would only know by speaking to Phil or who he sub-contracts to, would be that it's had new rings and pistons. If the engine needed a new block rather than just having the gasket itself replaced (which from what I understand tends to be the case if you actually catch it soon enough if it lets go) then wouldn't that suggest the engine was run longer than perhaps it should of been?

Maybe I'm wrong, I'm no mechanical expert, but rather than running around with alarm bells ringing, just pick up the phone, that's the only way to know. It could be the case any parts for the block itself are held in a separate invoice, given it was subcontracted.

Our dear mod Charles could have an idea as I understand Phil did a lot of work for him on his B3S, although I can't remember if that was engine/gearbox or both.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks a lot for the contact! And thank you for the further feedback. I've just got of the phone to Phil who mentioned that the brief was to fix head gasket and there shouldn’t be a problem with piston rings. He offered them into bores and gaps and they were ok. I guess the seller could have changed them, but cost could have been an issue. After spending £3+ on the engine, refurbing the alloys and then having to sell it for only a little bit more, I don't blame him. However, I am still in two minds now again about going ahead with this now based on the last round of feedback
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 1:24 am    Post subject: B1 V8 AVAILABLE SOON Reply with quote

Hi,

Getting ready to sell 1999 B1 V8. Velvet Blue / Full Spec /Excellent Condition / Cream Interior / 87000 miles / 3 Owners / I`ve owned since 2004 - 42000 miles when purchased / Full Service History & All MOT`s. Reason for sale - recently aquired B5.
If you`re interested, let me know. RICHARDM
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 1:28 am    Post subject: B10 V8 AVAILABLE SOON Reply with quote

Sorry, just realised 0 is sticking on keyboard.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would have thought as long as the pistons weren't damaged you'd reuse them but good practice to fit new rings? I guess Phil can only do what the customer will pay for at the end of the day.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

surely if you're boring a block out by that much you'd need new pistons - just rings aren't going to cut the mustard.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rincewind wrote:
surely if you're boring a block out by that much you'd need new pistons - just rings aren't going to cut the mustard.


I thought that the replacement block was being bored out to accept the pistons from the original engine
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AND ALL THE WORK WILL BE COVERED BY AT LEAST A 1 YEAR WRITTEN WARRANTY. WON'T IT???

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