The unicorn estoril blue b12 for sale

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Post by E24man » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:05 pm

Gee.Singh wrote: It is the only estorial blue Alpina B12 6.0 RHD in the world
This is a bit of a non-sensical statement as each of the rhd B12 6.0 is the only B12 6.0 rhd cars in that colour, simply because they are all different colours.

It is the only B12 6.0 car in Estoril but not the only E38 B12 in Estoril as there is a B12 5.7 Langversion in Estoril.
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Post by AG » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:18 pm

Gee. I object to you making this comment especially as its not relevant to this specific conversation.
But you get guys like "AG" on the register who tell the owner that the car is worth £25k
What was discussed and in what context has been completely miss reported in that statement. I did not advise on a final cost, a selling figure nor did I value the car. I explained how I saw an excellent e32 B12 sitting should one of the few sold come up for sale in perfect condition. How the owner interprets this in connection to his or her car is not down to me.
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Post by bss325i » Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:56 pm

Am I the only one who thinks Estoril does not suit this car.

And the colour coded shadow line is tragic.
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Post by ali » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:49 pm

Gee.Singh wrote:I have spoke to the chap selling the B12 6.0
He wants offers over £100k
He's given me the registration number
So I will update on the status of the car on the HPI register
He seems to think it's HPI clear
Apparently he's bought the car with no damage !!!
I've been chatting to Richard about this ad and can confirm that the vendor is the person who bought it and fixed it so is clearly telling porky pies .
His name is Adam and owns a bodyshop
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Post by AG » Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:43 am

Am I the only one who thinks Estoril does not suit this car.
I don't really like Estoril full stop so no you're not the only one.
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Post by Gee.Singh » Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:16 pm

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Has now been added to the advert on eBay

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Post by Gee.Singh » Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:18 pm

Everybody will have their own opinions on the colour
I however think that B12 looks good in Estoril Blue

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Post by v8 ego » Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:29 pm

The pictures of the damage at the time that I saved...

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Post by Gee.Singh » Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:38 pm

Looking at these pictures
The car isn't even worth 20k
Never mind overs over £100k
The chap who owns it Adam, Saj has an mot , repair centre at the moment
If the car wasn't properly put on a proper jig, it might not even be right

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Post by v8 ego » Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:18 pm

I think the warped suspension turret would be the most worrying for me.
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Post by KevinB10 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:10 am

When I enquired about the car on ebay I got a reply as follows - But it was minor damage a scrape on the passenger side and wheel damage. Not something that required rebuilding. :shock:
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Post by Gee.Singh » Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:20 am

I didn't even get that
No damage or been damaged and HPI clear
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Post by bss325i » Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:51 am

That would have been an easy repair.
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Post by ali » Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:35 am

eBay vendor wrote:I didnt realise she was recorded untill now. The first few years I owned her it didnt come up on HPI.

But was only a minor scrape on passenger side. Insurance companies writes cars off because they recouperate more money selling the car as is and paying the difference.
He did know all about the damage the liar that he is
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Post by E24man » Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:23 pm

Estoril used to be a rare and almost exotic colour on BMW's when it had to be especially ordered from BMW Individual, but since the advent of the 'F' 3 and 4 Series cars having it as a no-cost option it is very commonplace, and perhaps has revealed its true colous as a bit of a 'Marmite' colour.

It proliferates amongst the 3 and 4 Series cars these days, in fact you can sometimes be hard-pressed to find one that isn't in that colour - our 435d Cab is and many, many more are as well.

On the E38 it is very bold and as someone has pointed out, the complete colour coding of all the additional trim sections looks now to be a hasty attempt to make the car look 'modern' for its time, 2001.

Getting back to this particular car, I had forgotten the extent of the damage on the,especially the front wheel strut tower and associated misalignment, the damage to the offside, and also the kinked 'C' pillar.

Whilst bss325i has commentated that it 'would have been an easy repair', does this also mean, given the current vendors reluctance to admit its history even though he very obviously knew it, that it would also have been an easy job to bodge the repair?

Reading back through RichardC's ownership of the car it is very obvious that he was meticulous and not at all spendthrift in his stewardship of the car, but I do not think, given the current vendors responses that it can be assumed that policy was followed.

Given the damage pictures have re-surfaced, thanks to V8ego, I would suggest any potential purchasers be very wary until a full check of the car is done and personally I would be astonished and suspicious if no step-by-step pictures of the cars restoration were not available.

Is it not also a little odd that no current pictures of the car exist?
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