Multi-fuel fires/stoves

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Multi-fuel fires/stoves

Post by ade and liz flint » Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:43 pm

We're contemplating fitting a multi-fuel fire to one of our (colder) rooms in order to 1) make it more habitable and 2) reduce our general fuel oil consumption.

Anyone any particular stove recommendations? Or indeed, any thoughts on them in general?

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Post by Hodge » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:36 pm

We have 2 of the said stoves, a Tiger stove and a Yeomans stove. The Yeomans has doors on both back and front as it sits in the centre of the room. The Tiger is your normal looking stove with doors on the front. My experience in short is, once the actual stove is hot then you feel the benefit and can open the doors for that extra toastie feel. Up until the stove is hot it can be a labourious process awaiting the heat as you often need the doors closed to effect the draw.

In short, Takes a time to heat up, but when hot, it's proper hot

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Post by ade and liz flint » Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:06 pm

Cheers, Hodge.
Ours is to be fitted into an existing fireplace (against an outside wall) and we understand the benefits of steel versus cast iron units and the timescale of heating. We expect ours will be 'on' throughout Autumn and Winter, just varying the heat output as required. As it stands, our lounge is underutilised as it has 3 outside walls (1 north facing), and is of solid brick construction. Even 2 radiators on a modern boiler plus an open fire struggle to make it liveable on colder days. Hence the planned move to a multi-fuel jobby to keep the room warm, and hence help the rest of the house a touch heat-wise. We're going looking tomorrow, but want to avoid sales-speak if possible and get good recommendations from owners if possible.
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Post by Hodge » Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:04 am

I see what you're thinking. On a slight tangent we have just fitted elec underfloor heating in the kitchen under new slate. The result is quite marvellous, the fact heat is emitted uniformly rather than against a wall has made a tremendous difference to the whole house never mind just the kitchen, sorry about the aside, hope stove hunting is fruitful :oops:

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Post by ade and liz flint » Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:48 am

Funnily enough, I was discussing underfloor heating with someone only yesterday. No good in most of our house, but suggested for when we re-furbish our conservatory in a few years time 8)

Loving the idea of a slate floor. Fabulous, beautiful, natural material. Welsh slate roof on the house 8) , and Spanish slate on the garage roof (new Welsh slate is incredibly expensive, and used more-so :shock:), and smatterings of slate as door steps, window sills and hearth. Can't beat the look or feel.
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Post by Chas » Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:34 am

Ade, I've got a Nestor Martin FB80 multi-fuel stove in the lounge which was fitted into the old fireplace aperture. It's an inset stove rather than the traditional free-standing type. When it's not in use, it looks like a 36" TV because it's all glass at the front.

As as been said, they can take a good 30 minutes to get up to temperature but, once they do, there is certainly no need to have additional radiators in the room. The inset stove can also pipe heat to other rooms if required. Like all stoves, the glass can become fired and sooted. When the glass is clean (10 minute job), it's aestethically like an open fire but with the benefit of flame control.

There's nothing better on a winters night than shutting off the air intakes when the stove's up to temperature and watching the flames wafting in slow motion! 8)

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Post by ade and liz flint » Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:29 pm

Thanks Chas! 30minutes heat-up is still much quicker than a conventional open fire which can take forever, it seems! We'll probably be looking at more 'traditional' units to suit the house features....unless we hava a mad rush of blood...... :lol:
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Post by Charles » Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:49 pm

We had an open fire and changed it for a Jetmaster unit - still open but designed to fit into the aperture.

The Jetmaster claims to offer three sources of heat - direct from the fire, convection as it draws cold air round the back and there is an exit flue for hot air at the top and radiation from the iron construction.

Starts heating the room almost instantly and there is an air baffle to control the burn once up to temperature.

Not quite the same as the others described but you don't have to clean any glass. From recollection, we went for a Universal 600 unit with the clip on fire screen.
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Post by Chas » Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:05 pm

ade and liz flint wrote:We'll probably be looking at more 'traditional' units to suit the house features
The inset stove doesn't need to be too contemporary although it would probably be out of place in, say, a farmhouse. There's a couple of examples within 'standard' fireplaces in the Jetmaster website Charles has posted and they are pretty similar to mine.

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Post by ade and liz flint » Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:02 pm

Thanks Charles, Chas.

Got the link to Jetmaster open and will peruse. We obtained some good info from 2 suppliers today, and have 2 fires we liked the features and appearance of. Will also see what the Jetmaster range has, now, too, as neither supplier had their gear on display.
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Post by Charles » Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:21 pm

Excuse the pun but fired up the Jetmaster for the first time yesterday evening and the room was toasty in a matter of minutes :D

Having emptied and cleaned out the ash tray for the summer, it does take a few burns until there is enough ash in the bottom to support a lovely steady fire, but even still it worked as expected.
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Post by jamesa » Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:13 pm

Ade ... did you fit one ?
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Post by ade and liz flint » Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:15 pm

jamesa wrote:Ade ... did you fit one ?
Yes....Euroheat Stanford 23 multifuel (8kw or thereabouts). Fabulous piece of kit - well happy! Our oil fired heating doesn't know what's hit it! :lol:

Basically, it's this one as a multifuel:-

Stanford 23

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Post by jamesa » Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:05 am

Many thanks .... :D
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